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posted by [personal profile] elanya at 11:07am on 23/11/2006 under
Happy turkey day, Americanos!

Not that the pilgrims were the first European settlers in what was to become the US, not by a long shot...

There were Spanish in Florida and the Gulf, and other places, well before them.

Oh, and Jamestown, can't forget them, though they were only about what, 10 years or so earlier?

I suppose we can ignore the Vikings and any Basque whalers because they were up in Canada.

Oh, and of course the fact that there weren't actually *any* Americans until 1776, and even then, historians have demonstrated that the Revolution happened during a period in which he colonists self-identified most strongly as British. That's *why* they were so miffed about their lack of representation, see?

And also, finally, I guess we'll just overlook the 'Native Americans' that were here first, and who were abused by the pilgrims, and still fed them and kept them from death despite the fact that it wasn't really in their best interests. And who were the Christians in that exchange? Of course, we discount their presence here for the previous few thousand years because the Indians aren't really American...

But this just all goes to show how much traditions can evolve. Who really thinks Thanksgiving is about anything than having a big meal with the family and being grateful that everyone can pretend to get along for a few hours in exchange for free food?

Enjoy the white meat, suckers ;p
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There are 23 comments on this entry. (Reply.)
 
posted by [identity profile] chairman-matt.livejournal.com at 05:21pm on 23/11/2006
I shall ignore said public holiday entirely and carry on going about my business, without comment of any sort :P
 
posted by [identity profile] elanya.livejournal.com at 05:32pm on 23/11/2006
Heh heh. It scored me two less days of classes, so I'm not really complaining ;)
 
posted by [identity profile] astatine210.livejournal.com at 05:53pm on 23/11/2006
As mentioned elsewhere, I think we should celebrate Thanksgiving on the 6th of September, as "Thank goodness we got rid of those awful Puritans" day.
 
posted by [identity profile] aghrivaine.livejournal.com at 06:30pm on 23/11/2006
Wow, how sour ARE those grapes?
 
posted by [identity profile] elanya.livejournal.com at 06:34pm on 23/11/2006
I've got no grapes, I just find it amusing how much utter myth the holiday is founded on. As an actual excuse for people to get together and be grateful for what they have, be with family/community and such, I'm all for it :)
 
posted by [identity profile] aghrivaine.livejournal.com at 06:36pm on 23/11/2006
Name me a holiday that isn't founded on myth!
Christmas? Easter? Halloween?
 
posted by [identity profile] elanya.livejournal.com at 06:41pm on 23/11/2006
They amuse me too, but this is more seasonal ;)


... Talk like a pirate day?
 
guy fawkes-its about setting fire to catholics, though admittedly you dont get the day off to stoke the fires or owt :)
 
posted by [identity profile] astatine210.livejournal.com at 07:48pm on 23/11/2006
Guy Fawkes' Night is about having another end-of-October-night-of-the-dead bonfire like your village has done since forever, but claiming it's about burning Catholics to keep the vicar happy.
 
weeeeellll you could look at it that way :P
 
posted by [identity profile] astatine210.livejournal.com at 07:51pm on 23/11/2006
August Bank Holiday.

Really, the banks do shut.
 
posted by [identity profile] aghrivaine.livejournal.com at 09:44pm on 23/11/2006
We don't have that here.
Arbor day, maybe?
 
posted by [identity profile] slackest.livejournal.com at 06:40pm on 23/11/2006
It sounds like *someone* hates our freedom!
 
posted by [identity profile] elanya.livejournal.com at 06:47pm on 23/11/2006
Your freedom is smothered in disgusting white gravy! Eww!
 
posted by [identity profile] chairman-matt.livejournal.com at 07:19pm on 23/11/2006
is that a euphemism?
 
posted by [identity profile] astatine210.livejournal.com at 07:49pm on 23/11/2006
No, it's a tuba.
 
ta rah boom crash
 
posted by [identity profile] skjaere.livejournal.com at 09:39pm on 23/11/2006
Hey, as long as there is good food and lots of it, I'm not inclined to complain about the origins of the tradition. Happy Turkey Day indeed. I have much to be thankful for.
 
posted by [identity profile] elanya.livejournal.com at 09:40pm on 23/11/2006
Have a great weekend :D
 
posted by [identity profile] skjaere.livejournal.com at 09:43pm on 23/11/2006
Thank you. I intend to. With or without turkey.
 
posted by [identity profile] etir.livejournal.com at 09:06am on 24/11/2006
I don't even know where to begin taking you to task for what you've said here. There are certain historical truths and the like the do get played with a bit, but time and again they have shown that your position is misguided at best, and downright foolhardy at worst.

It amazes me that anyone could be so deluded as to believe what you do, and so crass as to go ahead and say such a hateful thing in, even in a mostly private forum such as this. I really thought better of you, but then I look here and find you attacking something that isn't just a tradition, but almost sacred.

Certainly, our opinions have differed from time to time. Usually this is not a case of right and wrong so much as just an issue being examined from both sides. However, I cannot sit idly by in light of what you have done.

You have made fun of white meat. And our gravy.

This means war.

;)
 
posted by [identity profile] elanya.livejournal.com at 04:21pm on 24/11/2006
Heh heh, I can't help it, I just like dark better! And white gravy is gross. Gross! Barely-meat flavoured floury goo! I'll happily war with anyone who enjoys that kind of foul concoction!
 
posted by [identity profile] chairman-matt.livejournal.com at 12:45am on 25/11/2006
really..white gravy..nasty!

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