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posted by [personal profile] elanya at 07:18pm on 11/09/2004
Since I have been here, and maybe even for a little bit before, I have been feeling fairly emotionally unstable. I feel lonely, and dissatisfied about a number of things about my present situation and future prospects. I don't know where I will, or where I can, go after this degree. My options are unclear at this point. I am worried that I will not live up to the expectations of me here - that my work won't be as good as expected, or that I won't be bale to pull off the things I am hoping to try. On the other hand, I have been very excited about some of these things. I like a lot of the peple here more that I first thought I might. I am really enjoying my courses so far. I still have fairly close contact with my older friends, even if it seems that I only get online for organized games for the most part. I've had a lot of fun with some of the opportunities I have had here.

I am trying to construct this in an organized way, but I'm not really sure if it is possible, so I'll just get on with it the best I can.

I think I have problems understanding how people are supposed to experience emotions. A lot of people tell me that I am too repressent; that I don't express myself very emotionally. And I really don't *understand*. I don't understand what the benefit is, for example, of advertising to the world that I am sad. If I go and cry in my room, it means that I have red eyes and confused neighbours. I don't understand how it is supposed to help me feel better - how that release is supposed to be cathartic. I comprehend the theory that sharing my pain with my friends is supposed to allow them to help me. I just don't see how that is put into practice. If there is something that can be done to improve my situation, sure, that is one thing. But generally if that is the case, I'm capable of seeing, and doing it myself. If in the meantime, I am still sad, what can they tell me that I don't already know? Is it suppose to be more helpful to hear from someone else that, for example, I am making friends here, and that the development of those relationships is just a mater of time? Why?

It seems to me, that when I am feeling down about these things, there are really two options. I can dwell on the negative - allow myself to indulge and experience it. I am not clear if this is supposed to make me feel better, or if it means that I am wallowing in misery. Is it a matter of time? Are we supposed to let ourself feel bad for awhile, and then go do something about it? The other option I see is that I can distract myself by dealing with things that aren't beyond my control. I can do school work, talk with friends about other things, play, dance, or what have you.

There are two, I suppose, possible outcomes of this second approach. The first is that I repress my negative emotions, and that once I am through with whatever I am doing to put them out of mind for a bit, that they will return. The second is that I actually replace the negative emotion with a positive one for the duration, and that the good things I experience are not necessarily underpinned by the negativity that I am discarding. It doesn't mean that I am not going to experience those negative feelings again, however, because whatever intially cause them is still present. Is that unhealthy?

I believe in Stoicism. This doesn't mean that I don't want to have, or to show emotion. It means I believe in not letting myself be ruled by negative emotions. Either I will deal with what is causing them (I am lonely, so I will try to make new friend. I miss my old friends, so I will make more attempts to stay in contact with them), or they are something that I can't control, so I am forced to accept the circumstances and work from there (my mother is dead, and I can't bring her back). There isn't a question of being able to bear these things. There isn't a choice, you just do it because the only other option is to cause yourself to stop feeling, and that's an unacceptably final solution.

Do you understand? Am I still missing something here?
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posted by [identity profile] gnomentum.livejournal.com at 04:57pm on 11/09/2004
Yes I do understand, and yes you are missing something. And I think it's something it's more normal for blokes to miss...

The point of talking about this stuff is not just so that the people you're talking to can help.. the TALKING helps in and of itself. Trust me, it works. You've been through a LOT in the last few years, even without the family stuff do you realise how amazing it is the amount you've uprooted your home not by a couple of hundred miles but by whole CONTINENTS - on your own!!

I admire you immensely for how you've coped with all that and I think I did from the first time I met you. However sooner or later something has to give. Humans are social animals and we NEED to communicate. It's a natural function. We also need to vent our emotions.. just think, if you need to fart and don't it can build up more and more till it really hurts? It's the same with emotions.

I'd be tempted to suggest a heart to heart with a girlfriend, face to face if possible, and failing that it might actually be worth talking to your doctor. Not because I think you need medical help, but because they are trained to draw this stuff out and that's evidently something you're not practiced at.

Sorry if this sounds like a lecture but I figured a practical approach might be more helpful to you than a load of slush and sympathy. But if you want some of that too I'm sure you know my email address...

Hope this has been some kind of help anyway. Thinking of you. *hugs*

Gnome
 
posted by [identity profile] elanya.livejournal.com at 05:23pm on 11/09/2004
I'm the first to admit that I am not the most expressive of people When it comes to resolvable issues, I at least understand the value of talking - even if it may take me a while to get there. For the irresolvable ones, though, I really don't. It's never made me feel better to talk about things, at least not that I can remember at this particular moment.

I have, in fact, been accused of thinking/acting like a man because of this before. Hmmm... I also find it ironic that while recognizing that this is true for me, I am usually more than willing to listen to other, give them opportunities to vent when they need it. I like being able to do that for other people - it makes me feel like I'm a better friend when I can. I often wonder if the fact that I tend not to keeps people more distant from me.

I'm not looking for sympathy at all... it's not constructive ;) I'll take the hugs though :)
 
posted by [identity profile] gnomentum.livejournal.com at 01:31pm on 12/09/2004
Hmmm logic, don't you just hate it?

 
posted by [identity profile] longpig.livejournal.com at 09:19pm on 11/09/2004
It's all so complicated. Too much to write coherently all at once, especially at this time of night. I know what you mean about some of it at least though, like what does it pay to pretend. It isn't necessarily pretend though, and sometimes you just have to take what you can get. I found, for myself at least, that talking with someone who is willing to listen, really listen, does have value even if you don't see a 'resolution.' The talking itself helps you to sort things out in a way that simmering them on the back burner of your brain just doesn't seem to accomplish. Sometimes they can help you see things you never thought of before, just by asking questions or whatever, which might help you pin down where the feelings have been coming from. Even if you can't eliminate them (or not right away, anyway), that understanding is an immense help. I know that I have told you all this before as well. Nothing new.

I know that I don't have to tell you to take care of yourself, right? Have good food, don't abuse yourself, and don't eat nothing but carny food all day like I just did. Although this Kernels corn is really, really good...
 
posted by [identity profile] freakwoman.livejournal.com at 10:33pm on 11/09/2004
I think that the reason that a lot of people feel the need to talk about their problems is both that it sometimes helps to just talk, that other people can sometimes have imput etc that can give you options, or at least a different persepective, and also because when you talk about things, and someone say "yes, me too" or "I am here for you if there is something I can do" its often relieving. There isn't anything wrong with not wanting to talk to people. If you don't find that it benefits you, do what feels better for you instead. Its understandable for you to be feeling off kilter right now. You moved a great distance, your meeting new people and trying to hang onto old friends. You just lost someone dear to you, all in all a lot of really big life changes have happened to you at once. Thats enough to make anyone a little off. I know that it doesn't make any dicernable difference in how you might feel, but I love you and I miss you. If you are lonesome and you need to talk to someone you can always call here, collect if need be. *hugs*
 
posted by [identity profile] fiachra.livejournal.com at 10:39pm on 11/09/2004
I'm afraid this is one of the areas where I am so far removed from you in terms of mindset that there's no way I can begin to try and explain how I think it works for me.

However, I am just a phone call away. Drop me an email anytime and I can almost always call you(for free) after midnight or during the weekends.
 
posted by [identity profile] ladyiolanthe.livejournal.com at 12:18pm on 12/09/2004
I'm not very good at giving advice or anything, but I am a very good listener. You know my phone number - call me collect if you ever need to, okay?

*huggles*
 
posted by [identity profile] vureoelt.livejournal.com at 02:50pm on 12/09/2004
Hmmm. Unhealthy? Can be. But if it doesn't colour your activities in the meantime, maybe not.

For a lot of people, negativity can affect productivity and enjoyment. If it isn't the case for you, and the negativity doesn't return increased afterwards, then maybe it's not bad.

Anyhow, not sure if you have more questions or statements, but that's all I can think of off hand beyond what I've already said. Just that sometimes, a burden (insolvable or not) shared is much lighter than one you slug around alone.

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