~There's something in the air~ [elanya]

Brownie, my mom's 12 year old dohg, had to be put to sleep last night because her stomach twisted. Poor Brownie.... Poor Mom. Brownie was a sweet dog, though not necessarily the brightest bulb. And I'm sure we'll be finding treasures of hers (dog hairs) for many months to come...

On the brighter side of thigs, I managed to finish all my chocolates in time to take some over to Shan and Dave before they left for the 'Shi. And Fishy came over to play with us for a while, before running off with Dean and Jason. It was nice to see him again!

On the down side, I stupidly got into a debate with Dave about his MSC project. I really should know better by now. *sigh* Our pointless debating 'meh'ed' Hazel too, and wasted much time.

Tomorrow afternoon, I'm helping out with a concert. It is nioce to be doing music stuff again, I'd forgotten how much I like it. I'm also surprised how easily it has all come back. Maybe there will be a university band at WlU or UoW that I can play with, or equivalent. I'm not going to have much spare time in Onrario, methinks. The piece I am playing tomorrow is The Snowman... which is odd, because Mary had the music on her Christmas MP3 list last year, so I was familiar with it. It is an annual Christmas special they play on the BBC... an animated story of this kid who makes a snowman, it comes to life, they play around his house, and then go out on a magical adventure to the north pole and whatnot. There is some boy soprano singing in it. The music is narrated, but I can't remember now if the animated special was, or if they just let the pictures stand for themselves... Anyway, lots of crazy percussion running around and whatnot.

I may go see TTT again tomorrow night, with people. Or maybe on Monday. Fishy hasn;t seen it yet, and neither had C, I don't think, and I want to see it *again*. I also need to finish up chocolate trays for other people and see what I've got left, aharr...

now I must sleep. Rehersal at 12 to 2:30, and then concert at 3. I'm supposed to wear 'something festive'...

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On the down side, I stupidly got into a debate with Dave about his MSC project.

That was a down side? I thought you were enjoying yourself.

I wish I had someone to discuss my areas of expertise with.

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I do and I do't. I like the thinking involved but debating/philisophising with Dave is very frustrating, too. And I wish I had someone to talk to about my area of expertise too, but, well.... they don't exist :/

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Contrary to your sentiments, I believe our conversation was NOT a waste of time! I prefer to think of it as philosophy, the purpose of which is not to answer questions, but to ask them (at least, it is for me). As I said when you were here, I *need* and *want* people to pick at my thoughts and arguments. There's a lot of loose ends to tie off, too, but if you're not interested in further debates, I'll sadly let it drop.

The chocolates ROCK, BTW! I'm supermega happy with them, and with the Chateauneuf Du Pape and print from you and Hazel. Friends rock. =]

And don't forget about Dances With Noams.... (HEEEEEEE!)

Well, Dave, if the conversation made you think any, then maybe it wasn't a waste of time. But I never feel like I'm actually getting you to consider any of the points I'm making, and it seems everytime we do have these debates, it always goes back to the same things and we run into the same walls. I can't stop once I get started, but I also find it frustrating.

Interesting poitn was mentionedc to me by someone else, though... Do we, as humans, really need more things in the world to make our lives seem more meaningless?

Yarr. Not my point, but interesting nevertheless.

Glad you like the chocolates :D

It did make me think, lots and plenty. I hope it had the same effect on you. I know it seems like I'm not considering the points you (and other people) raise, but what's not spoken is the huge amount of behind-the-words thinking that goes on when I'm presenting with a point. I have to decipher the meaning, the motivation and context, and see where and how it fits into what I already 'believe/know', or if it should, or what the implications are. Many people just listen, letting the presenter guide the exposition, and I do that, too, on occasion. Last night, though, I was in my more 'normal' mode, which is to question, to explain *why* I believe something the way I do, to rebut 'weak' arguments, and to pear away at a subject until it's reduced to it's central question. I realize that I come across as assholy and arrogant ... but that's just me. :-/

Anyway, the goal for me is, as I said, to have people find flaws in my arguments/beliefs/theories/whatever. You found some, and I spent a *lot* of effort thinking about them (I can multi-task in some ways: talking and thinking about related-but-not-identical subject comes naturally to me). The reason I glossed over most of the points on subjectivity is that it's ... ungraspable. The further we go into subjectivity, the less solid ground there is to stand on, and things become ... sophistry.

Damn, I have to go get ready for our trip. If you're willing, I'd love to continue this sort of discussion after I get back. I'll try to be less frustrating, but that's just the way my brain works, alas. I'll tackle your other person's point about more-things and increased-meaninglessness another time. ;-)

Gotta have a chocolate before Shan sneaks them all.... =]

It's a beautiful piece of music, the boy that usng it is called Aled Jones - A welsh choirboy at the time, who had just won choir-person of the year. Ah well, thought you might find that interesting.

elanya

~There's something in the air~

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The Snowman - Walking in the air

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