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posted by [personal profile] elanya at 06:15pm on 23/11/2006 under

Bastet



You look for balance and harmony, anxious, devoted. Often rash and impatient.

Colors: male: yellow ochre, female: grey
Compatible Signs:
Sekhmet, Horus
Dates:
Jul 14 - Jul 28, Sep 23 - Sep 27, Oct 3 - Oct 17

Role: Goddess of cats, women, and secrets
Appearance:
Cat or cat-headed woman
Sacred animals:
cat


What is Your Egyptian Zodiac Sign?
Designed by CyberWarlock of Warlock's Quizzles and Quandaries



But did the Egyptians actually have any kind of concept of horoscopes like this? Or is it an internet invention? Does anyone know?
Mood:: 'cheerful' cheerful
Music:: Tom Jones - Are You Gonna Go My Way
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posted by [identity profile] taokodr.livejournal.com at 12:34am on 24/11/2006
I'm pretty sure they had a good understanding of Astronomy...with religion so prevalent in society, I'd guess it wouldn't be a huge leap to assume.

Still, they'll put anything on the Internet these days, so WTF do I know? ;-)

Peace!
GB!
 
posted by [identity profile] ulvain.livejournal.com at 03:44pm on 24/11/2006
... Old Greeks, Egyptians and Babylonians invented astrology and horoscopes.

A very interresting article titled "Astrology history in Egypt":
http://www.touregypt.net/astro/

Quote:

The beginnings of actual astrology can be seen during the Old Babylonian period, during the second millennium. The focus of the Babylonians was on the well-being of the kingdom and the king, not of the individual. For this reason, predictions revolved around things that would affect this well-being. The Babylonian priests correctly documented Venus’s appearances and disappearances and because of this erratic behavior (due to the fact that Venus revolves about the sun backwards) Venus became associated with love and war. Somewhere around 1300 BC, the precursors of the individual birth horoscopes were formulated. These were merely predictions based on which month a child was born in. By this time the astral bodies have become quite significant at this point.


Hope I didn't bore you to tears! :D
 
posted by [identity profile] elanya.livejournal.com at 04:12pm on 24/11/2006
No no! Not bored :) I suppose if I'd thought about it for more than half a second, I would have realized that part. I suppose what I meant was not so much 'astrology' in the sense you've described, but how much they associated the different *gods* with various birthdates/astrological signs the way we think of them?

In sort of a chicken-or-the-egg debate, as well, I am also kind of curious how many different cultures really attributed the same traits to people born around the same time of year, and how much of that comes from the *diffusion* rather than the independant develoopment of astrological ideas. Pertty much every test I've taken under whatever calendar has always given me the same result - description for a Libra wrapped up in slightly different words ;)
 
posted by [identity profile] ulvain.livejournal.com at 04:56pm on 24/11/2006
Interresting debate... The test part, though, I think I can partialy explain. The famous psychologist named Carl Jung (http://www.cgjungpage.org/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=743&Itemid=54) invented a lot of the basis of the cognitivo-behaviouralism, a branch of psychology that studies the behaviours and that works at identifying the way we developp thaught patterns. He developed the Jungians types, and was basically the first one (or amongst the first ones) to use a questionnaire to define personnalities, thaught pattenrs and preferences, etc.

It's actually derived from his work that Meyers and Briggs, mother and daughter, created one of the most widely known questionnaire to determine personnality type, the Meyers-Briggs Type Indicator (MBTI), a test used to define if you are Introverted or Extroverted, Intuitive or Sensitive, Feeling or Thinking, and Perceptive or Jugemental. That creates 16 categories, but with an infinity of nuances, since you can score anywhere from completely introvered to completely extroverted, and so on for each characteristics.

The test:
http://www.humanmetrics.com/cgi-win/JTypes1.htm

All that to say that most of modern "personnality questionnaire", weather they are based on a horoscope, on "the way to love your man" in cosmopolitan, on "are you more of a chicken or more of a sauce type", and so on and so forth are all based on the MBTI and on the Jungian types.

Most of today's astrology is a complete joke, though. For having worked as a journalist for a few years, I can tell you I had friends joking on who would take the task of inventing stuff for the astrology section of the newspaper that week or that day. "Serious" astrology tests are usually based on the MBTI, and the zodiac signs and definitions are usually a twist over one of the MBTI types...

Again, I keep going and going like an energiser bunny, don't i? ;)
 
posted by [identity profile] elanya.livejournal.com at 05:17pm on 24/11/2006
That also makes sense - I have noticed a lot of overlap in the kinds of questions that get asked on these sorts of things. This particular meme only asked for the birthdate, though, which is why I was more curious.

And it doesn't surprise me an iota to hear that newspaper horoscopes are really composed way I suspected ;)
 
posted by [identity profile] sorceror.livejournal.com at 11:39pm on 24/11/2006
The Babylonian priests correctly documented Venus’s appearances and disappearances and because of this erratic behavior (due to the fact that Venus revolves about the sun backwards)

Um... I think this is a mistake.

Venus revolves around the sun in the same direction as all the other planets. However, it revolves around its own axis in the opposite direction from all the other planets. Though how Babylonian astronomers could have noticed that is beyond me.

Maybe they're referring to retrograde motion (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Retrograde_motion), but that isn't unique to Venus.
 
posted by [identity profile] ulvain.livejournal.com at 02:45am on 25/11/2006
ouh! Very good remark - I had quoted what I thaught was "the appropriate paragraph", but didn't take the time - it seems - to go through it with enough care! Then again, I'm not sure i'd have been able to point it out, would I have read it with all the care in the world...

Maybe it's the way the Babylonians thaught venus revolved back then?

Hmm... in any case, good eye! :)

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