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posted by [personal profile] elanya at 11:57pm on 07/10/2004
I am having serious doubts right now.

I don't feel like I'm smart enough to be here. I am never going to be the brightest. I sit firmly on the low end of 'smarter'. I can only pretend to be organized. Even when I'm successful, it doesn't matter because the things I turn out are shit anyway. The only reason I did 'well' at sheffield was that no one there knew what the hell I was talkign about. They couldn't point out my myriad flaws. I still never did that well.

Even if I finish here... And I am probably capable of finishing, I won't have good enough marks to be chosen for a good PHD program, if I can even find one. All the things I want to do are either stupid or impossible. But there isn't anything else I cwant to do. I am just destine to be highly mediocre, and unremarkable, except to my friends. And there is no one *here* anyway. And even if you tell me I am awesome it doesn't mean that I am going to be good enough at this. It doesn't make be better. I don't even know where this is coming from.

people here think I am clever and on top of things, and it is such a lie. There people are clever enough to wait until the day before an assignment, in grad school, and then shit out something that is still good enough to merit an 'a'. I'm not. Evren if I try, if I make myself finish things a week ahead of time, the things I output are so shitty that it doesn't matter. I am not going to be able to compete. I'm not going to be wirth dumping another out of State tuition waiver into, and so I will spend the last of my inheritence on a grad school degree that won't take me as far as I need to go.

I don't know what I can do to make any of this better. I don't even know how I feel, except that I went to take a shower an hour ago and I haven't been able to stop crying, I wish I was at elast learning the things I wanted to learn here, or doing the things I wanted to. I haven't even been out to the conservation lab, because I don't have any way to get out there, and they run on such a tight schedule that I don't think I could just go out there randomly anyway. I don't know what to do.
Mood:: 'crushed' crushed
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posted by [identity profile] skjaere.livejournal.com at 09:02pm on 07/10/2004
*hugs* not everyone is cut out for the life of an academic. I'm certainly not. It doesn't make you not good enough; it just means that maybe this isn't your calling, or the right path for you. Hard work will only get you so far if you can't make yourself think like they want you to. But you *are* smart, and you *do* have a passion for your subject. That will get you somewhere good in the end. Just hang in there. Oh, yeah. And come visit me sometime.
 
posted by [identity profile] andrewk.livejournal.com at 09:48pm on 07/10/2004
you can talk till you're blue in the face and I won't believe for a second you're not smart enough to handle it. smart is a mixture of aptitude, hard working, and perseverence -- and any shortcomings in one area can be overcome by focusing in others.

the longer you're there the more you'll learn, and the more you'll realize you CAN do it, and do it well.

I fully believe you'll do great.
 
posted by [identity profile] rumor-esq.livejournal.com at 11:34pm on 07/10/2004
Both AK and skjaere may be right on some regards. I would echo that I do believe in your brains and especially your passion. The academic life _may_ not be for you, who knows. It's really quite true that it's the cream of the school crop who become successful, notable academics, and even those of us who do really well in school might not be those people. But AK has a point: all kinds of people are academics, and you just need to be who you are.

Here's my point: you're doing your Master's now, so enjoy it. I realize that the thought of not continuing towards your PhD and academic career may be very scary and discouraging. I've been there myself. But give yourself some time to mull it over and consider that your current studies, even if they don't lead you farther in that direction, can be really goddamn good for you. Enjoy it, learn as much as you can, publish something. Grad studies isn't just about becoming an academic, it's about meeting people, being in a new place, and studying something that you love.

Whether you continue down this path or not, try to be comfortable with both choices, and then make the best choice for you. You have a lot of time left to think about it.
 
posted by [identity profile] longrat.livejournal.com at 03:07am on 08/10/2004
I work in academia, and I know the sort of doubts that you are facing - in fact I had a talk to Bro (vampyrfate) a short while ago.

He pointed out that whatever field you are in, sooner or later you are outclassed. (I had was reflecting on a particular female academic from Oxford who is thin, pretty, determined, ultra-bright, has high(er) paid job (than me), hubby who is determined, ultra-bright, is in charge of one of the colleges at Oxford, 2 kids (pretty, determined, ultra-bright) and all absolutely superb people!)

I knew I would *never* be any more than I am, and I was incredibly crushed by the experience.

Funnily enough when I came back from work from having B - I didn't feel like I was goode enough anymore. Sometimes I am on the edge of 'being found out' by some of the brighter students (will they realise I only just read the text book last night type of thing. I don't even have organisation!

I have realised that I am never going to be the brightest - but then again... only 1 person in the world is at any time.

You don't need to be the brightest (I realised) You need to be *bright enough* and there is a BIG difference.

As the posts already on here show - your friends think you can do what you set your heart to do - but if you don't make it - shrug it off - YOU TRIED... there are many out there who don't try - and that meant that they failed before they even started!

On the positive side - I am one of the ones who believes in you to go for what you want :)
 
posted by [identity profile] curtana.livejournal.com at 05:40am on 08/10/2004
First of all, this is at least partly the bees talking. You're feeling crampy and crappy and lonely, and that is making you upset. Also, you're worried about your presentation that's coming up and frustrated by steamboats. Both of these factors are, I suspect, in large part "where this is coming from."

Secondly, as other people have said, at some point we all feel like we're not good enough to do what we want to do, or like we're really going to be found out as shams. That's the thing - everyone feels that way, even those people who seem so clever to us, who seem like they can do anything without breaking a sweat. We're all insecure, and we all think our work is shitty and useless from time to time. Remember, you're doing a heavier course load than what they recommended - if those other "clever" people aren't, then it's only natural they should be less stressed than you.

As to whether this degree is going to get you what you want, I don't know the answer to that. But I do know that you've told us that profs there have encouraged you to switch into a PhD program at some point - obviously they think you're good enough to do it. You know as well as the rest of us that even a PhD isn't a guarantee of getting exactly the career you want. You should be studying because you love what you're doing - if you find you don't love your subject anymore, then that would be the time to think about other options.

It's important to remember the reasons why you're in grad school. Grad school is the place to make contacts, especially the kind of contacts that might get you a good job - maybe not your dream job, but a good, useful job. This is what happened to me - meet even one helpful, supportive prof during your Masters and they can take you a long way. It's also the place to work on a subject you feel passionate about. There will be stupid mandatory courses at first, but once you get those out of the way, you really can study whatever you're interested in, and that's a luxury you wouldn't always have, even as a professional academic.

Finally - what to do about this. First of all, get some rest, some Midol, and make sure to eat properly, then see if you don't feel a bit better. If it's a particular assignment that's stressing you out, you can always ask for an extension - people do that all the time, and it's nothing to be ashamed of. If you're frustrated by not being able to get out to the conservation lab, find someone who goes there on a regular basis and wheedle a ride out of them. Talk to your supervisor or another sympathetic prof if you're still feeling this concerned by next week. I promise you that any prof you talk to will have felt this way at some point in their studies, and as they're familiar with this program they might have some words of advice. I don't know if it's too late for this, but maybe you can drop a course and go down to the number of course-hours they suggested - there's also no shame in that.

And finally-finally, remember that all your friends are with you, even if we're far away. *huggles*

 
posted by [identity profile] forthright.livejournal.com at 07:20am on 08/10/2004
If people there think you are clever and on top of things, they are probably right - and they are probably also having the same doubts and qualms as you. Of course we are biased, and you shouldn't take *our* word as evidence of your brilliance. But everyone in grad school (and in life) is a fraud waiting to be exposed. Comparing yourself to others is a one-way ticket to the nuthouse, because you're comparing your internal (anxious, self-doubting) state to their external facades. In the end, everyone does it a little bit, but the key is to put it in perspective.

Good luck and *huggles*
 
posted by [identity profile] sorceror.livejournal.com at 10:04am on 08/10/2004

I don't know you as well as [livejournal.com profile] curtana and others, obviously, but as far as I can tell you are very intelligent -- and that's without considering the many *other* personal qualities that make you awesome. And I'm a rocket scientist, for heaven's sake; I recognize intelligence when I see it.

For what it's worth, I have doubts about being in grad school too. Right now they aren't at the forefront, but they're still there. That's entirely natural. But it comes and goes.

I hope you'll feel better after the long weekend. Happy Thanksgiving/Columbus Day!
 
posted by [identity profile] vureoelt.livejournal.com at 10:40am on 08/10/2004
Everybody else said it better than I can probably formulate.

So, just add me to the list of people believing in you. *huggles*
 
posted by [identity profile] longpig.livejournal.com at 11:01am on 08/10/2004
I know you can do this, and you *will* do it. Steve is right, all these other people... Everyone believes in you; and I don't think you could possibly have fooled us *all*!

I love you!
 
posted by [identity profile] slackest.livejournal.com at 06:00pm on 08/10/2004
I've been doing some reading regarding the whole grad school thing of late, and the conclusion most people seem to harp on is this: Everyone is constantly convinced that their work is subpar, that they are not up on the material, that their papers are crap, and that everyone else is light years ahead of where they are. This is due to the general process of learning, especially in a higher academic setting, being all hidden from the eye of the observer, such that you only see yourself flipping out and pulling your hair out over the goddamn mire of text, and you see everyone's end product of similar labors, thus leading to the whole 'everyone is smarter than me at this' thing.

Also, on people pulling awesome papers out of their asses at the last minute: I do this all the time. This does not, however, mean that I'm better at doing this sort of thing than others; it means that I can't function without the pressure of a deadline. If others are operating in a manner similar to the method I tend to use, they get a whole bunch of information, stuff it into their brain early on, and let it sit and gestate for awhile. Essentially, by the time they sit down to actually write, they've already gone through a draft or two. It's just a different method, and does not reflect in any way on the compotence of the author.

So, um, yeah. Also don't be neurotic. You'll kill yourself.

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